On Tuesday 29 July 2008 5:59 PM Ron defines MYSTICISM: Ron: THIS is what defines MYSTICISM. [Krimel] I don't get your point in this one.
Ron: The experiences that coincide with others is called sanity, the ones that do not are mystical. It's the mystical experience which drives the dynamism of the social level If the individual can convey their own experience in a way that is believable or that society is open to particular types of mystical expression. ie: visions, religious experiences, art. <snip> Hi Ron and all, Pirsig proposes a DQ(undefined)/SQ(defined) metaphysical division of reality, MOQ. How can I know and talk about the undefined like the boundary between the inorganic and organic level of evolution. The knowing was attributed to undefined mystical experience, and talking was through analogy and metaphor. It was agreed that the boundaries between levels are mystically apprehended. Religious experiences, visions, art are extensions of undefined experience that are not necessarily metaphysical except by analogy, becoming in your parlance a definition of MYSTICISM. This extends mysticism into areas of definition from SOM. Joe On 7/29/08 5:59 AM, "Ron Kulp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ron: > > THIS is what defines MYSTICISM. > > > > [Krimel] > > I don't get your point in this one. > > > > Ron: > > The experiences that coincide with others is called sanity, the ones > that do not are mystical. It's the mystical experience which drives the > dynamism of the social level If the individual can convey their own > experience in a way that is believable or that society is open to > particular types of mystical expression. ie: visions, religious > experiences, art. > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
