Hei Magnus 14 Aug. u wrote:
> Hi Bo > > "Fuss about about a 5th level". I simply claim that the MOQ is the > > metaphysics that has intellect as a subset, consequently it can't be > > an intellectual pattern. This makes the MOQ a "meta-level". Try > > logic for a change. > So, according to your logic, you wouldn't be able to think about a > thought, or to be self-conscious? For the umpteenth time the 4th. level is NOT thinking. Where is our agreement from long ago when we arrived at the conclusion that storing, retrieving and manipulation of previous experience through logical gates is something from deep inside the biological level and that animals are capable of "thinking" in this sense - something they actually are - and SOM incapable of explaining this with its pompous "consciousness" even the butter-on-pork "self- consciousness". As said if the MOQ uses this basic thinking as definition it's lost. As tried to convey to Ron people from/at the logical level (where emotions dominate) think motivated by emotions and possibly find reason for their conclusions, but thinking at the intellectual level is all about arriving at "objective" conclusions. My dictionary say "distancing oneself from emotions and INSTINCTS, but the latter is biology and no one is fooled by that, however EMOTIONS (social level) is the great temptation because SOM has no social level. I don't know if this will make things any clearer, there is obviously some insurmountable obstacle between the MOQ and you ;-) Bo Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
