And since these axioms are limited in their understanding and analytic logic 
and SOM is built on these axioms, then analytic logic and SOM are incomplete in 
their understanding of reality.  Hence, there are ways to understand reality in 
other ways that are more complete.  By saying "understand", I'm referring not 
only to experience but an intellectual way to "understand" reality that is not 
just analytical logic and SOM, and your saying that these other ways of 
intellectually understand reality are even more complete than analytical logic 
and SOM - maybe that's what your saying?

SA


--- On Fri, 8/22/08, Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [MD] For Bo
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 7:00 AM
> Ron:
> > Axioms are systems of assumptions for matters of
> > convenience.
> > Example, in simple math we assume that whole numbers
> exist.
> > That they exist as separate and distinct entities.
> > This is convenient for simple abstractions of number
> > (how many apples we have..ect.)
> 
> SA:  Is the axiom system above:  whole numbers "exist
> as separate and
> distinct entities"?  Is that an axiom?  And what your
> also saying, I
> believe, is that to think an axiom exists, is false in the
> first place?
> 
> 
> Ron:
> Right on, axioms are not experience, axioms are assumptions
> about
> experience. Assumptions which have value as a matter of
> convenience
> of use.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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