Hi DMB, you make the same tyrannical point yourself ... "Logic itself is not logically complete and consistent, let alone any moral philosophy." As you say.
In fact, I made a much weaker assertion of "not irrelevant", no more. BTW quit with the personal attacks. Ian On 8/22/08, david buchanan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ian said: > ...Godel is not irrelevant to explaining why moral philosophies can never be > (logically) complete and consistent. > > dmb says: > Man, that just kills me. Only a philosophical tyrant could make as assertion > like that. You'd have to be a hyper-rationalist and even more insane than > Hegel. Logic itself is not logically complete and consistent, let alone any > moral philosophy. > > Exploring the possibilities and limits of intellect is one of the central > points of the MOQ, no? And doesn't that exploration make these kinds of > assertions seem thoroughly implausible? Even ridiculous? I think so. > > > > > >> > >> Platt: > >> Exactly. Or any other philosophies for that matter. > >> > >> Ron: > >> Are you agreeing that no philosophy can be logically complete and > >> consistent? > > > > Yes -- the key word being "complete." > > > >> or are you agreeing simply based on the fact that the theorem applies > >> to philosophy (which it does not). It only applies to philosophy in that > >> it > >> discredits it's axiomatic logical assumptions as incomplete. > > > > The theorem applies to any logical, i.e., intelligible system including > > philosophy. > > > >> Godels theorem supports Pirsigs position that analytic is only one of > >> many ways to view reality, that SOM is not intellect but an intellectual > >> method. > >> > >> That value is more empirical than logic. > > > > The MOQ uses logic to make the case that logic is not all there is. > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Talk to your Yahoo! Friends via Windows Live Messenger. Find out how. > http://www.windowslive.com/explore/messenger?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_messenger_yahoo_082008 > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
