[Arlo] This is now the third little snide remark you've made. I appreciate that others have to do this because they have nothing else they can do. Indeed, for how many posts now you have not offered any alternative, any reasoned opinion on why I am wrong, and what would be right. Just "you're wrong", unexplained and unexplored accompanied by some little mean jab.
Ron: hey man, thats HER character, just accept it, why do you feel her response is any more wrong? are you going to tell us what is right and wrong now after you and Krimel bashed DmB for it? two can play this game cha-cha. Arlo: So what do YOU think? Let's start here, with a question I asked Ron yesterday. Over the weekend I saw a show on television about a boy who believed he was a girl inside. His legal name was "Mark" but the name he "felt" was "Julia" (or something, don't remember exactly, but you get the idea). What is the "real self" here? Is he really a boy? Or is she really a girl? Is it a girl trapped in a boy's body, or a boy pretending to be a girl? After you answered this, consider that this person was preparing to undergo sexual surgery for gender change. After the operation, does the "real self" change? Would you say "now she is really a girl, but before he was a boy"? Think about it, because the "self" that resides in that gray matter didn't change, did it? How did "Julia" suddenly become "real" when a day prior she was "pretend"? Now let me complicate it a step further. Along the way none of "Mark's" friends new about "Julia". He kept this identity "secret". They all new "Mark". Does this mean they new a "pretend" person? Or the "real" person? What about after the operation, what if they meet "Julia"? Who did they "know" before? Was "Mark" not real? Did he "die"? What do YOU think? Ron: I think you are cleverly changing the questions to something that has little relevance to the issue. one is who they are, understood. making up who you are is another story. I am not Ming from Mongo, I am not the emperor of a fictitious world. If "Julia" or "mark" suddenly declared they were Napoleon Bonaparte and insisted they be treated as an emperor of France, would that change the issue? Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
