[Marsha] --


The patterned distribution of static quality or Quality? Static quality is definition. Quality is beyond definition, at least that is my understanding. The terms 'primary' and 'first cause' both
are definition making them static.  It seems to me that you are
trying to reify Quality.

Interrelated causes and multiple conditions.  How can these be
tracked?

While I think there is something in your theory that explains, to some extent, the conceptualization process, most of it makes no sense to me. Thanks for the response, but the reification of Quality is a no-no.

You forced me to look up "reify" which, I confess, is not in my vocabulary. Webster's says it is "to regard something abstract as a material thing." Now, I don't know how you Pirsigians get from "pure" Quality to material entities, but from what I've seen here, an entity (thing) is a pattern. Even the self, you've said, is a "collection of patterns". Correct me if I'm wrong, but it would seem that reality is supposed to be "unpatterned" quality (DQ), and finite entities are "patterned" quality (SQ).

Interrelated causes are intellectually perceived S-O creations. The cause of an egg is the hen that lays it; the cause of a broken egg is the hammer that smashes it, etc. Such events relate to the differentiated universe of human experience which attributes all phenomena to causal forces. Perhaps that's reification, but I see it as the objectivist precept that all events have an antecedent cause, except for the first event (Big Bang?) which, according to the objectivists, occurred spontaneously. Neither the essentialist nor the MoQist believes that the essence of reality is substantive matter; in fact, we are both phenomenalists who believe that material reality is an experiential construct of Value or Quality.

So what's your beef about my statement, Marsha?

--Ham



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