Marsha, you asked, Can you think too much ? Absolutely. But that is not an instruction to kill thinking "completely" is it ?
Dare I mention .... middle-way ;-) One thing you are not Marsha, is an idiot. Ian On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:03 AM, MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 10:41 AM 9/18/2008, you wrote: >> >> Marsha, >> I almost respnded too , but was going to pick-up on the "kill" >> statements rather than the "follow" question ... >> >> Both are problematic taken in isolation (as mel says). >> >> My point was that the kill (completely kill) is about the (static) >> patterns not about the intellect. > > Hi Ian, > > I completely agree. But can you think too much? > > >> And the "completely" is only in the context of the instruction to >> follow dynamic quality ... like Pirsig is not denying the (positive) >> static latching value of static patterns only their (negative) >> constraining value. > > I think following dynamic quality requires some intelligent consideration, > of course! But not too much. It's as I wrote to Ham "Why not leave it a > mystery??? Why not let it unfold before you in all its many aspects?" Wow! > Now I'm quoting myself!!! I am surely an idiot! > > Marsha > > > > > >> IMHO natch. >> Ian >> >> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:33 AM, MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > mel, >> > >> > Please explain what it means to you. I've posted this particular >> > passage >> > mucho times, and I would like to know what you think about it. At the >> > moment, sustaining seems depressing. What do you think? >> > >> > Marsha >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > At 09:45 AM 9/18/2008, you wrote: >> >> >> >> The passage could also be made >> >> more approachable by punctuation changes. >> >> >> >> The style of a writer can introduce unintended >> >> implications to readers used to a different style. >> >> >> >> ...of course excerpting can alter the flow of an >> >> expression of meaning and Pirsig is dense with it. >> >> >> >> Hence, the need to re-read. >> >> >> >> thanks--mel >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "MarshaV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> To: "MD Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:46 AM >> >> Subject: [MD] sustaining? >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > While sustaining biological and social patterns >> >> > Kill all intellectual patterns. >> >> > Kill them completely >> >> > And then follow Dynamic Quality >> >> > And morality will be served. >> >> > (LILA, Chapter 32) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Sustaining is a tricky word? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > . >> >> > . >> >> > >> >> > Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the >> >> stars......... >> >> > . >> >> > . >> >> > >> >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list >> >> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> >> > Archives: >> >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> >> > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> >> Archives: >> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > >> > . >> > . >> > >> > Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the >> > stars......... >> > . >> > . >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list >> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> > Archives: >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > . > . > > Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars......... > . > . > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
