At 11:11 AM 9/18/2008, you wrote:
Marsha, you asked,

Can you think too much ? Absolutely.
But that is not an instruction to kill thinking "completely" is it ?

Dare I mention .... middle-way ;-)

Middle way?  You are absolutely correct!  Thanks for the reminder!


One thing you are not Marsha, is an idiot.
Ian

Well, a fool for certain!!!

Marsha





On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:03 AM, MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 10:41 AM 9/18/2008, you wrote:
>>
>> Marsha,
>> I almost respnded too , but was going to pick-up on the "kill"
>> statements rather than the "follow" question ...
>>
>> Both are problematic taken in isolation (as mel says).
>>
>> My point was that the kill (completely kill) is about the (static)
>> patterns not about the intellect.
>
> Hi Ian,
>
> I completely agree.  But can you think too much?
>
>
>> And the "completely" is only in the context of the instruction to
>> follow dynamic quality ... like Pirsig is not denying the (positive)
>> static latching value of static patterns only their (negative)
>> constraining value.
>
> I think following dynamic quality requires some intelligent consideration,
> of course!   But not too much.  It's as I wrote to Ham "Why not leave it a
> mystery??? Why not let it unfold before you in all its many aspects?" Wow!
>  Now I'm quoting myself!!!  I am surely an idiot!
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
>
>
>> IMHO natch.
>> Ian
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 9:33 AM, MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> > mel,
>> >
>> > Please explain what it means to you.  I've posted this particular
>> > passage
>> > mucho times, and I would like to know what you think about it.  At the
>> > moment, sustaining seems depressing.   What do you think?
>> >
>> > Marsha
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 09:45 AM 9/18/2008, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The passage could also be made
>> >> more approachable by punctuation changes.
>> >>
>> >> The style of a writer can introduce unintended
>> >> implications to readers used to a different style.
>> >>
>> >> ...of course excerpting can alter the flow of an
>> >> expression of meaning and Pirsig is dense with it.
>> >>
>> >> Hence, the need to re-read.
>> >>
>> >> thanks--mel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "MarshaV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> To: "MD Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 1:46 AM
>> >> Subject: [MD] sustaining?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > While sustaining biological and social patterns
>> >> > Kill all intellectual patterns.
>> >> > Kill them completely
>> >> > And then follow Dynamic Quality
>> >> > And morality will be served.
>> >> >        (LILA, Chapter 32)
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Sustaining is a tricky word?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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