At 09:42 AM 10/14/2008, you wrote:
Hi Marsha
Quaint, to find my words thrown back at me : )
Your words have been hanging on the wall in my studio since you wrote
them. I read them often.
But really, when the world is crashing down on so many people, I guess there
wont be many with half a mind; is any. Then they didnt have any to begin
with, if they allowed themselves to caught up in the global euphoria of the
bubble; the mindlessness of the herd and the market.
Yes the market.
I've not been playing the game, but I worry for others who have not
been playing the game yet may certainly be hurt by their innocence.
Does the market have a mind? Where is its brain ? Are they they folks at
Goldman Sachs who decided to go long instead of short ? Or is it with George
Soros, who says Government is needed to master the market and to tame the
beast.
Where is the Dalai Lama when we need him ? There is the little niggling of
the gallstones that need to be taken out. Even a god has to have them
removed; I thought he would just meditate them away; I still have mine;
lodged in my gall bladder like a ticking time bomb before they decide to
irritate and inflame.
I am glad the Dalai Lama is recovering. I understand he may be
released from the hospital at the end of the week. I wish him
well. I think of him often. And I wish you to bypass the irritation
and affliction.
These are inflammatory times; and there is a certain madness about. Where is
the centre and where is the norm; do we know anymore ?
I don't know, but think your voice is important. I think your voice
needs to be heard on this forum. I would welcome your help. I need
your help to understand. I am blind to so much. There are others
who would welcome your words too.
Does it lie somewhere between an Obama and a McCain ? Between the Blue and
the Red ? Between Putin and Mr Hu ? Who indeed will be the new Masters of
the Universe ?
No, I don't think so. I think it lies in a new vision.
Civilisation lurches from shock to shock; seemingly mindless and without the
Quality we seek.
These Masters of the Universe are naked. It can't help but be
noticed. They have nothing to offer.
Thank you for writing Khoo.
Marsha
On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 5:59 PM, MarshaV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> ...by a neurosurgical stroke so fine
> I find myself completely out of my mind..
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> Marsha
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> p.s. I don't know how Bo can not address your post. Words like narrow,
> shallow and without humility come to my mind.
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> At 09:29 AM 10/12/2008, you wrote:
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>> Skutvik :
>> Thus the oriental intellectual level was every bit as S/O as the
>> Occidental,
>> but the
>> Orientals did not lock on to that level to let it develop into a S/O
>> metaphysics like the West.
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>> Khoo:
>> Wow, Bo this is as superficial as you can get about a culture and a
>> civilisation bounded by a metaphysics that you observe as laboratory rats.
>> Have you immersed yourself among the lab rats in what oriental philosophy,
>> more pointedly Chinese philosophy would be all about before you make
>> statements like that; directly rather than vicariously even through
>> Pirsig.
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>> Skutvik:
>> The social level is their primary focus with a Quality-like insight lodged
>> on top of that, manifest as Buddhism and Taoism.
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>> Khoo:
>> In a way if thats all how you think of Chinese civilisation being mostly
>> social structures it does not surprise me that you would come up with a
>> particularly grating point of view as below:
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>> Skutvik:
>> This is behind their lack of innovation, of aping western music and
>> producing western goods to perfection, but not bringing forth any new
>> things.
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>> Khoo:
>> I wonder where the world would be without ice cream, spaghetti and
>> gunpowder. But that said according to your world view - lets not hold our
>> breath for anything new to come out from China -even as blends of East and
>> West and then more.
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>> I may have posted earlier on this before - but all innovative activity in
>> China was done and claimed in the name of the Emperor. I was surprised
>> that
>> crossbows and chrome were already made in China when China was first
>> unified
>> under Qin. Does anyone remember the name of the first Chinese Taikonaut;
>> as
>> opposed to Yuri Gagarin and Alan Shepard ?
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>> Chinese society today has to deal with the market capitalism of the West -
>> to the extent that greed and lax regulation has allowed melamine to taint
>> baby milk products. But the social values of a country that limiits birth
>> to
>> one child per family will soon enough correct that - as we expect the
>> greater good to prevail over the greed of a few.
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>> Skutvik:
>> Most of all no philosophical evolution - like the MOQ for instance - and
>> typically the MOQ could not have been arrived without the strong
>> intellectual level i.e. the SOM.
>> Khoo:
>> Might it ever be considered that Chinese civilisation for all its 6,000
>> years, barbarism and affluence
>> all taken into account, is the manifestation of a Metaphysics of Quality ?
>> Quality after all precedes SOM; Western civilisation choose to go with SOM
>> as the primary dichotomy. Chinese civilisation stayed with the Metaphysics
>> of Quality and retained SOM as a derivative branch.
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>> That is why maybe in your scheme of things the Chinese don't have
>> inventions
>> in the personalised patents under the names of individualised objects;
>> objects who dared identify and name the ten thousand "things' as though
>> they
>> discovered "them" and therefore possesed "them"..
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>> Finally I am not inclined to get into a debate where the premises have no
>> common ground but I will say that if one accepts that the fundamental
>> worldview of the Chinese is alliterative rather than objective; then we
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>> start to get to the point.
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