Ham:
Rather than returning to
isolationism, though, I tend to side with the "America First" philosophy of
Pat Buchanan and Newt Gingrich. A nation has to look out for itself just as
an individual does. And that means accepting moral and fiscal responsibilty
for happenings within its borders and never overextending its resources in
foreign causes. I think we have failed on both counts.
woods:
I think getting into foreign causes is the ivory tower. We're here and a
foreign
country is, well, over there. Different culture, takes time to understand, and
to live
with the foreign country would show that all one thought about the foreign
country
wasn't nearly enough to know their circumstances.
Isn't this why all politicians want to look like they are one of the crowd,
a pal,
and an average person. Yet, unless a politician can really get their hands
dirty
with the people or follow due course on protecting the Constitution, then what
other guidelines would a politician have other than ivory tower suggestions in
laying out plans and policies that are not discovered in the field. It's the
factor
of experience and the understandings and knowledge that come from experience,
if ignored, is what fowls events up.
This is what empires for the most part fail to do. They fail to understand,
first hand,
the people they are in contact with. It's the ivory tower failing to
understand its' base.
It's Greenspan and the Federal Reserve using Computer Models to understand the
economy without ever factoring in human beings and what they bring to the
economy.
It's SOM, it's objectivity finding value to be a non-factor in life, and yet
it's the biggest
factor in life. That's like trying to shoot a rocket at the moon and instead
we dig a hole
into the earth trying to get there. Don't you think?
The ivory tower is the intellectual patterns placed into society without
participating
in society to develop intellectual patterns within the society - from the
ground up. Social
level is the foundation of intellectual patterns. The ivory tower would be to
think it's
the other way around I think.
Ham:
Multiculturalism in the U.S. was fostered by the Supreme Court's outlawing
of school segregation in 1954 and became "politically correct" following the
Civil Rights revolution and liberalization of immigration laws in the
mid-60s. The object, of course, is to render society colorblind to cultural
and racial differences. In effect, it alters our traditional value system
to make discrimination in any form immoral. Thus, all people are viewed as
equal and no nation is culturally superior to any other.
woods:
Ah... you just didn't bring up segregation as a good thing did you? The black
drinking fountain and the white drinking fountain?
Ham:
In an Ayn Rand Institute paper on Diversity and Multiculturalism, the
authors describe this campus-driven movement as "The New Racism":
"Advocates of "diversity" claim that because the real world is diverse, the
campus should reflect that fact. But why should a campus population
"reflect" the general population (particularly the ethnic population)? No
answer. In fact, the purpose of a university is to impart knowledge and
develop reasoning, not to be a demographic mirror of society.
"Racism, not any meaningful sense of diversity, guides today's
intellectuals. The educationally significant diversity that exists in "the
real world" is intellectual diversity, i.e., the diversity of ideas. But
such diversity - far from being sought after - is virtually forbidden on
campus. The existence of "political correctness" blasts the academics'
pretense at valuing real diversity. What they want is abject conformity."
Frankly, I don't see this as a contest for biological, social or
intellectual dominance. I see it as a diminution of value sensibility and
discriminative judgment, which is the very core of individual freedom. If
there is any truth to the "globalist conspiracy", this would be its
strategy: 1) indoctrinate the masses to the immorality of thinking for
themselves so that they become dependents of the state;
woods:
Your "1)" is what I completely agree with and find to be the biggest
problem. It is the dumbing down of the U.S. The educational system
going downhill. It is people thereby more and more having the faintest clue,
and therefore getting duped by people that will take advantage of them.
Ham:
2) encourage immigration of Third World populations into developed nations who
will then
acquiesce to the multicultural differences; and 3) abolish the sovereignty
of nation-states.
woods:
I don't know about "2)", my grandparents came from sharecropping farming
Italy. Yet,
if people keep coming across the border illegally, well, that's a problem, and
if
we don't educate people to our language and what the U.S. constitution is, then
whether it's from within or without people won't know their basic rights to
counter
any infringement upon them. In fact, they would be more likely to help carry
out
infringements upon the rights of other people.
But "3)" is what they are exactly planning on doing. Crisis after crisis,
shock after shock,
will subdue people into feeling more and more helpless and as Clinical
Depression is defined,
people will normalize their feelings of suffering when the way out is right in
front of them as
clear as day.
Ham:
We've already taken major strides toward toward achieving
the first two steps. Do you suppose that if the world's most powerful
nation were to elect a president with a globalist agenda backed by
international support, he might just pull it off?
Happy Election Day!
woods:
Bush did it and rubbed it in our faces. He didn't even
go through Congress or ask the public. Now he's attacking within
Syria's borders. Doesn't he need some ok with Congress to do this?
And you might be right about Obama. He may not even be as
secretive as Bush tried to be at times. He may just do this
things in the light of day and talk about with the public, but this is
chalk full of assumptions. Bush we know did it. Obama could
do anything, we'll see.
woods
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