Lisp has had a runtime programming feature built into from its very early
days - 'quoted' lists can be built at runtime and then unquoted ie executed.
Javascript, the ubiquitous, has an eval function which does the same.

-KO

2008/11/7 X Acto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Ron:
> To all who are interested, in light of the current topic of discussions, of
> how two types of logical systems
> process data, I have found a very elegant illustration of this concept in a
> description of how it functions
> in computer programming. Reflective or self-referential programming is an
> autopoietic system.
>
> Reflection-oriented programming, or reflective programming, is a functional
> extension to the object-oriented
> programming paradigm. Reflection-oriented programming includes
> self-examination, self-modification, and
> self-replication. However, the emphasis of the reflection-oriented paradigm
> is dynamic program modification,
> which can be determined and executed at runtime. Some imperative
> approaches, such as procedural and
> object-oriented programming paradigms, specify that there is an exact
> predetermined sequence of operations
> with which to process data. The reflection-oriented programming paradigm,
> however, adds that program
> instructions can be modified dynamically at runtime and invoked in their
> modified state. That is, the program
> architecture itself can be decided at runtime based upon the data,
> services, and specific operations that are
> applicable at runtime.-wiki
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflection_(computer_science)<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflection_%28computer_science%29>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: kieffer odigaunt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 8:48:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] emergence
>
> Hi Gav,
>
> 2008/11/7 gav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> >
> > in the MOQ we call the force/agency that accounts for the evolution of
> > novel elements DQ. but what are we saying? we can't define DQ but we can
> > examine how it operates.
> >
>
> agree
>
> but
>
> > (random mutations is an explanation that doesn't stack up, when are we
> > gonna drop that turd?).
>
>
> the mutations may be random but natural selection is what drives evolution;
> that double spiral is the where all the action is - coming in ever more
> complex forms for freedom
>
> if we look at evolution as being teleological, and the MOQ does of course,
> > what we are saying is that we are evolving *towards something*; ie the
> > future in some way is already known, it is dreamed first and this dream
> is
> > the attractor that pulls evolution towards it.
>
>
> no, the future is unknown but we are free to guess what it might be, that
> is
> intellect
>
>
>
> > we know in the MOQ that the future and past are left brain projections
> that
> > we use to order timeless immediate reality,
>
>
> through learning and experience we are able to recognise more complex
> patterns, but one part is more interesting, more dynamic  - and there we go
>
>
> ie we know that time and space are patterns not absolutes, therefore we
> know
> > that we have access to all time, now.
>
>
> not unlimited access - we can only guess - educated guesses
>
>
> > this is the realm of dream of myth of magic.
>
>
> yes, the virtual!
>
>
> > and it is this realm that literally gives birth to the world, every
> moment.
>
>
> yes, you are kali!
>
>
>     amazing that myth equals falsity in our modern language, when it is the
> keeper/creator of truth.
>
> trying to personify DQ - but it cannot be named
>
>
>
> > the hindus say we go through 26000 year cycles of forgetting and
> > remembering, forgetting and remembering...we are at the very end of one
> of
> > those cycles now.  are we about to remember the dream?....
>
>
> wish fullfilment, is more always better? or shall a man live for 1000
> years?
>
> -KO
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