[Woods]
It's called Schizo. You see what happens when your stuck in a
dualistic perspective Arlo.
[Arlo]
Me? Haha. Okay. Let's distill this down, and see if you will actually
answer a question here. I'll take it step-by-step, tell me if it gets
complicated.
You are arguing that we should remove the distinction between the
"military" and "civilians" and see everyone as one big group of neighbors.
I have argued that one group of people (those serving in the
military) be entrusted with these weapons, and another group of
people (those not serving in the military) be denied access and use
of these same weapons.
At this point you could accuse of me a double-standard (one group
can, one group can't), and I'd accept this. Yes, I do have a
double-standard, and have no problem with allowing one group (those
serving) from having access to weapons that another group (those not
serving) do not.
But here you go off on a different tangent. You accuse ME of saying
if one group can then all should be able to. That is YOUR position.
YOU seem to be the one stuck with an inability to differentiate why
one group should and another shouldn't.
Fair enough, I say, your position is that if one group (the military)
has these weapons then everyone (civilians and military alike) should
also have access.
So I ask, Woods, in your opinion, since the military does have access
to nuclear weapons, should YOU?
Now I suppose you could go the other route, and say NO ONE should
have nuclear weapons. But you clearly seem to be articulating the
reverse, that citizens should have equal access to any and all
weapons used by their "neighbors" in the military.
You want to talk in terms of "people", fine, I ask you this. Should
people be able to own nuclear weapons (this is the position you've
been articulating). Or should only certain people (this is my
position). Or should no one. In your opinion, which?
[Woods]
Oh really Arlo. So my equating the military as people is wrong in your eyes?
[Arlo]
The military is a subset of the population bestowed with certain
responsibilities and privileges (including access to certain weapons)
the rest of the population are denied. Yes, the military are "people"
(how idiotic to try to paint me as saying otherwise), but these
people have special responsibilities and privileges.
[Woods]
The whole time I've been saying I'm talking about "people" and
"morals", but you don't think the military are people it would seem.
[Arlo]
You really have gone down a strange rabbit hole, haven't you? When
your position relies on such distortive and deceptive rhetoric as
this, I fear we have lost all common ground.
[Woods]
Ah, but people and neighbors non the less, with hearts and minds and
morality at play. Don't you know?
[Arlo]
Yes, they are people and our neighbors. But their service and the
great responsibilities they bear mandate certain privileges for them
the rest of us should rightly be denied.
[Arlo previously]
If you wish to be one of these "some people", then by all means join
the military and serve and protect.
[Woods]
I'd rather keep my free-thinking intact.
[Arlo]
So you're saying the people are not free-thinking?
[Woods]
Are you questioning my morality now?
[Arlo]
I'm beginning to question your sanity, yes.
[Woods]
I'm kind enough to call the military people and neighbors. Are they
not? What are they?
[Arlo]
When did I say that the people who serve in our military are not
"people" or "neighbors"?
[Arlo had asked]
And since the US Military has nuclear weapons (I assume the root of
your argument is that the "military" are "your neighbors", no?), you
feel you should be able to own one well? Since the US Military has
Abrams tanks, sidewinder missiles and F16s, you feel you should be
able to have them as well?
[Woods]
What's the fear? Could it be these Abrams tanks and nuclear
weapons are scary Arlo? I hope so. For they are dangerous.
[Arlo]
Can't answer the question it seems. Yes or no, Woods. Since the
military (people and neighbors) have access to nuclear weapons,
tanks, missiles and F16s, should YOU?
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