Platt, Steve, Horse and the whole menagerie. 25 Nov.
Steve had said: > > Let's be clear, the MOQ does not make SOM the intellectual level. > > Only the unnecessary and wrong-headed SOLAQI interpretation does > > this. The intellectual level of Pirsig's MOQ is the collection of > > all intellectual patterns of value. > In Lila Pirsig wrote: > "What had happened since the end of World War I was that the > intellectual level had entered the picture and had taken over > everything. It was this intellectual level that was screwing > everything up." > Doesn't look to me like a "collection of all intellectual patterns of > value" is doing the screwing. Rather it seems clear that Pirsig > identifies the intellectual level with amoral SOM -- the modern trance > state. > I would go so far as to say that unless the intellectual level is > acknowledged to be the same as SOM, Pirsig's entire analysis of our > societal problems and his proposed MOQ solution goes down the toilet. > Then what have a got? Not much of value other than the fun of > philosophical debate. Maybe that's all we should expect, but I was > hoping for more. Wow, Platt's matter-of-fact style does much better than my shouthing from mountains. I respect Steve's and Horse's defending the Faith, but Pirsig is about as vague as Jesus and as this quote shows he does regard the intellectual level as SOM ... except when asked directly when it again turns into "intellectual patterns" and the circle is closed. Nuff said Bo Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
