Bo:
> Not describing how things really are, is impossible. Forwarding a
> theory that opens by declaring "..this is NOT how things are" is
> stillborn.
Steve:
Not at all.
Albert Einstein:
"Physical concepts are free creations of the human mind, and are not,
however it may seem, uniquely determined by the external world. In our
endeavour to understand reality we are somewhat like a man trying to
understand the mechanism of a closed watch. He sees the face and the
moving hands, even hears it ticking, but he has no way of opening the
case. If he is ingenious he may form some picture of the mechanism
which could be responsible for all the things he observes, but he may
never be quite sure his picture is the only one which could explain
his observations. He will never be able to compare his picture with
the real mechanism and he cannot even imagine the possibility of the
meaning of such a comparison."
Bo:
I'm not rying to play the Sophist, but at this high ground there are some
strange "inside out" turning of metaphysical socks.
Ron:
The turning of the sock you mention is the shifting from the particular
to the universal. The whole arguement is that you insist that Quality
may be universally defined when Pirsig and the rest of us say that
Quality is of a particular expereince and may not be argued to
the universal..
Pyrrhonian skeptic Sextus Empiricus first questioned induction, reasoning that
a universal rule could not be established from an
incomplete set of particular instances. He wrote[1]:
"when they propose to establish the universal from the particulars by means of
induction, they will effect this by a review of either
all or some of the particulars. But if they review some, the induction will be
insecure, since some of the particulars omitted in the
induction may contravene the universal; while if they are to review all, they
will be toiling at the impossible, since the particulars
are infinite and indefinite."
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