[Arlo previously] Before man appeared on the historical stage, what responded to Dynamic Quality? Give me an example of something, some animal, plant, species, whatever that you think responded to DQ before man appeared. I imagine you believe that SOMETHING could respond to DQ before "man", so I ask you, what?
[Andre] Look around you and all will be revealed. Go to the forest, to the supermarket,see a sunset/rise anything...all is the result of a response to DQ. Some low, some high Quality. [Arlo] I could not agree more. In fact, I've said many times that all patterns respond to DQ, but their responses are constrained (and enabled!) by the level they reside (and further by their complexity within that level). Thus an atom responds to DQ with only the limited and mundane repertoire made possible and restricted by the inorganic level. An amoeba has a greater range of possible responses, as its repertoire includes responses made possible only at the biological level. A cat, although also constrained by the biological level, has a greater range of responses due to its much greater complexity within the level. The problem is that Platt claims (and to be fair, Pirsig suggests) that nothing responds to DQ except for "man". Once again, I would then ask, if so then "what" did respond to DQ before man? Give me an example of anything, anything at all, that "responded to DQ" before man appears on the stage. If Platt had said "animals", then I would ask (and he knows this), give me an example of how an animal may have responded to DQ in the past that it can no longer do. Give me some evidence from history, anthropology, archeology, whatever of an animal that did things in response to DQ, and what that was, all things that animals today (in their non-DQness) can't do. I think you'll see how absurd that is revealed to be when you start asking simple questions like these. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
