On Thursday 01 January 2009 Arlo writes to KO [KO] Right! We are then assailed with cultural signals the rest of our lives and they run us ragged for their own ends. How to find some respite from that? [Arlo] Meditation. Yoga. Zen. All attempts to quiet the mind and free one from the intellectual, social, biological and inorganic attachments that define the broad species of "man". But I think it is important to point out that these are not "chains" we can ever live without. These patterns are dialogic, if you will, in that they afford as much as they constrain behavior. We are bound by these chains, but it is these chains that also enable us, provide the context for which we are agenic. All too often we see the "ills" of these attachments, but we forget that without them we'd be far far far less "free" than we are. This is, for me, one of the contributions of the DQ/SQ-Yin/Yang metaphor of the MOQ. Whereas others glorify DQ and near villify SQ, I think the MOQ shows us how their particular dance drives the evolution that has set us "free". As Pirsig said, too much Dynamic brings chaos and too much static brings stagnation. We are bound by culture, but without this unavoidable boundedness we would be in worse shackles, the shackles of biological necessity. We are forever suspended in language, but this suspension affords us far greater freedoms to act than we had before. Hi Arlo and KO I find it hard at this time of year, but happy holidays to all! Arlo, I don¹t follow your use of the word ³mind² as in ³quiet the mind². Are you suggesting a fifth level of evolution beyond intellectual, Social, biological and inorganic? What are the limits of evolution? Must prime being remain undefined?
Joe On 1/1/09 9:52 AM, "ARLO J BENSINGER JR" <[email protected]> wrote: > [KO] > Right! We are then assailed with cultural signals the rest of our lives and > they run us ragged for their own ends. How to find some respite from that? > > [Arlo] > Meditation. Yoga. Zen. All attempts to quiet the mind and free one from the > intellectual, social, biological and inorganic attachments that define the > broad species of "man". > > But I think it is important to point out that these are not "chains" we can > ever live without. These patterns are dialogic, if you will, in that they > afford as much as they constrain behavior. We are bound by these chains, but > it > is these chains that also enable us, provide the context for which we are > agenic. All too often we see the "ills" of these attachments, but we forget > that without them we'd be far far far less "free" than we are. This is, for > me, > one of the contributions of the DQ/SQ-Yin/Yang metaphor of the MOQ. Whereas > others glorify DQ and near villify SQ, I think the MOQ shows us how their > particular dance drives the evolution that has set us "free". As Pirsig said, > too much Dynamic brings chaos and too much static brings stagnation. We are > bound by culture, but without this unavoidable boundedness we would be in > worse > shackles, the shackles of biological necessity. We are forever suspended in > language, but this suspension affords us far greater freedoms to act than we > had before. > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
