DMB and Discussion. 5 Jan. you wrote:
> Bo said, "when the fanatics start to assassinate what they see as > "mockers of faith" it's more than "ordinary" murder, its social value > devouring intellectual". That's true enough, but fanatics who kill to > protect the faith are expressing exactly the opposite of a > multicultural attitude. Agree, but how would you think that I thought otherwise? > Besides, assassination is not a "cultural" value. Is there a nation on > earth that does not consider it a crime? I doubt it. There are a few > good Christians in our prison system for "assassinating" doctors that > defied their religious beliefs concerning abortion, which goes to show > that criminal fanaticism can be found in all religions and in all > ethnic groups. According to the MOQ the Semitic type religions are the social level's foremost pattern and those who are at that level won't recognize any intellectual value, only disobedience to God and they don't regard killing of infidels ..etc. as a crime, in Iran it's a duty. However, in intellect-controlled societies murder is the worst of crimes. > Before 9/11, people used to joke about the conservative Republicans by > comparing them to the radical, theocratic government of Afghanistan. > They were called "the Taliban wing of Republican Party". This little > joke also goes to show how fanatics come in all sorts of flavors. And > yet they're always asserting social level values of some kind. The social level is part of our constitution so there surely are many "theocrats" around, but in an intellect-controlled society this will never go out of hand. Even if President Bush is one such and - at times - may have wanted a Christian theocracy his intellectual component (plus the US constitution) prevents it. > Maybe that's why its absurd to imagine a fatwa being issued by Stephen > Hawking or an Inquisition in which philosophers torture people to make > them more thoughtful. Right, intellect can never apply such means because its very value is the abolition thereof. > So anyway, maybe it would be more accurate to say that Norway has a > problem with maladjusted religious fanatics, not Arabs or Islam as > such. I'd just point out that these fanatics are one of most > conspicuous reasons to embrace multiculturalism. You refuse to apply the MOQ. See my latest for Andrè. > Their pictures should be on the poster. They show us what intolerance > looks like, how ugly and stupid and lethal it is. Those who perform the actual murders have naturally be tried and sentenced, but the imams who fuel the hatred against the god-less West cannot be touched by our intellectual (as-SOM) tolerance, the result is fright of not infuriating them and intellect has thus destroyed its own base - the intellect-controlled society - and allowed for a pure social value society. Not yet admittedly, but I can't see a shore against this development .... except the MOQ. > The race and religion of the criminal aren't the determining factor in > the crime. Intolerance of cultural difference is. Race is biology and is no cause for discrimination, but religion is another case. In the Western intellectual (SOM) tradition religion is about faith in hearts and worship in private quarters, and everyone should be allowed that? In the MOQ however a different picture opens up (need I repeat?) and intellect is morally obliged to defend itself against social value intrusion under a religion-as-culture guise. IMO Bo Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
