[Platt]
Some radical leftists have even gone so far as to claim a Marxist
government would be a an expression of Christian ideals.
[Arlo]
Not exactly. Marxist ideology per se is radically opposed to the idea
of paying homage to an invisible man in the sky. It sees religion as
a opiate of control to keep the masses being good sheep while the
power structure manipulates them accordingly. But no greater
disservice has been made the Message of Christ as the one that
radical rightwingers promote when the see Christianity and the
Capistocracy as being sympatico. This is an outgrowth of their
cancerous "social Darwinism" that says that "God wants you to be
wealthy and have money, and if you do its because you have God's
favor". Jesus and Marx may not be entirely in line, but the
advocation of community work, feeding the poor, sheltering the
homeless, healing the sick, you know the Prime Tenets of the Faith
are far more in line with a communal-ideological orientation (not to
mention that Jesus was strongly opposed to wealth and material
possession) than with the Modern Capistocracy. Jesus might not be a
Marxist, but he sure as hell ain't no Capitalist either. Nor would he
be Happy to see those who pretend to be "Christians" so obviously
deviating from his teachings and thinking that "getting on their
knees on Sunday" or singing a few songs is good enough to get one
into Heaven. The single biggest irony is the "WWJD" slogans that
demonstrate clearly that those who most vocally pretend they are
Christians know absolutely nothing about its central message (as is
the case with you as well).
And, I will add, any "intellectual" or "enlightenment" in modern
Christianity derives not from the Faith, but from the advent of
secular humanism which, in fact, neutered Christianity to its
powerlessness we enjoy today. It was not until people were wise
enough to realize that secular, philosophically-derived law is a
better basis for social law than the Mandates of the Man in the Sky
that we freed ourselves from the shackles. Modern Christianity is
humble only because it HAS to be so, because it has no real power to
wage wars or crusades, to call for executions (even though several
prominent Christians have called for the eradication of sinners
(blacks, gays, immigrants, deviants, miscreants, etc) by God's hand),
or to control the weather (as many found out when they demanded their
god unleash a deluge of rain upon Obama's victory speech, an act he
did not do, as he was too busy making sure certain wide receivers
caught touchdown passes in that week's games).
[Platt]
That a Christian-suffused group of Founding Fathers in the U.S.
established the MOQ-cited intellectual level guarantees of freedom of
speech, freedom of religion, trail by jury, etc. would suggest a "yes" answer.
[Arlo]
It indicates they (Deists, not Christians) saw the benefits of
Secular Humanism over theocracy and established social law so based.
Unless you care to point out any references in the Christian Bible to
"freedom of speech" or (laughably) "freedom of religion" or "trial by
jury". That these so-called "Founding Fathers" (a moronic term)
pandered to the religious inclinations of the citizenry only reveals
how little they thought of the hoi polloi, and to be honest who can
blame them. Its a lot easier to control people by saying "My
Invisible Man in the Sky Says So" than have to explain a reasoned
argument. "Founding Fathers"? Please. How about "Fallible Men Who Got
Some Things Right and Some Things Wrong". So much more accurate.
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