[Bo] My opinion is that Jesus picked up the intellectual (SOM) signals from the Greek culture - directly or via the Roman occupants - and that his revolt against Mosaic Law (the law for humans, not humans for the law) was intellectual value's first intrusion on this social value-steeped region.
[Krimel] Once again I must attempt to correct this misconception of yours. Almost any influence the Greeks or Romans had on Jesus was negative. He was against it. He was not revolting against Mosaic Law. If he was revolting against anything, it was Roman occupation and the quislings appointed by the Romans as priests in the Temple. He was, after all, executed for sedition against the empire. Nor was his the first intrusion of intellect upon the Land of Israel. The author of the book of Ecclesiastes evidences intellect of the highest caliber. Ezra who was the probable editor of the Torah was no slouch either. [Bo] Intellect had no impact on Judaism then (it's still impervious) nor on the later Islam, and for 1.5 thousand years Christendom... [Krimel] This is nothing more than hot air; ill informed and offensive hot air at that. [Bo] ...what will a MOQ-influenced Christendom be like, will it become a Buddhist/Taoist-like wisdom? [Krimel] Steven Mitchell makes a similar point in the "Gospel According to Jesus" and Marcus Borg treads similar ground in both, "Jesus: A New Vision‎" and "Jesus and Buddha: The Parallel Sayings" neither author appeals to your notion that Jesus was some kind of closet Greek and neither requires the influence of the MoQ. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
