Khaled, Good points. I suspect the roots of both were in the US Gov't's preoccupation with Soviet actions. It kept Dulles from looking more than one move ahead on the chessboard. US Administrations do that so often in the third world.
(Now we look for the shadows of terrorists and likely miss the obvious that we SHOULD be doing to promote the very stability that would replace violence with another quality.) thanks-mel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Khaled Alkotob" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 11:38 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Christendom's place in the MOQ > > > mel: > > This is not quite right. There IS a strong anti-intellectual > > tradition in many Arabic Muslim clerical lines. This is a > > significant part of the modern unrest within the Muslim > > world. Many Muslims want to embrace certain western > > forms and look forward to a Renaissance of their own. > > Others want to do just what they did in the 17th century > > and purge the foreign thoughts and learning from their > > society and return to a fundamental recreation of the > > 7th Century. (They succeded that time.) > > Hello Mel > > This has been a very lively discussion. > There is a book by Bernard Lewis called 'What went wrong", in regard to > the closing of minds to the west, especially when Europe went into its > renaissance period and the Arabs were left to reminess on the golden age > of Andalusia. > As for the closing of minds and hearts toward the west, two major events > led to that. > First, Operation Ajax that brought the shah back to power, eventually > leading to Khomeini. yes I know Iran is not an Arab country, but > nonetheless it's religious and political sphere of influence is obvious > in that part of the world. > Second, the closed minded ness of John Foster Dulles in refusing to help > Egypt finance the Aswan dam. Driving Nasser, Egypt, and a few other Arab > countries into the soviet camp. A not so smart move by the west in trying > to help budding cultures that were trying to embrace the west. > > Khaled > ____________________________________________________________ > Click to get 150,000 in student loans and find the lowest rates > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2OOlcP4d1OG6CnYs615eFRs96x wz2zNWy4olHA33HFe87KU/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
