Conceded,Ian.
A typical high school aptitude circa 1953 and Pirsigs work.

You know, the ideals of linear progress were still going strong then,
perhaps we should give the old timer a bit of a break, but that would be
condescending.
;-)
-Ron

 



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From: Ian Glendinning <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:23:52 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] David Hildebrand's Dewey

Ron, Bo,

To be fair, Pirsig's work backed by a little "Math & Logic 101" maybe.

Ian

On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 3:42 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote:
> Bo, Pirsig is of the pragmatist school of thought. If you would expand your 
> horizons
> and connect existing theories and philosophies with MoQ you would glean 
> alittle
> understanding  about this. Have you even read Pragamatism by William James?
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> It really seems that your Philosophical reading begins and ends with Pirsigs 
> work.
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> -Ron
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> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:28:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] David Hildebrand's Dewey
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> Steve
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> 16 Jan. you wrote:
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>> I'm confused about what the pragmatic theory of truth is.. James says
>> truth is a species of good and is that which is expedient in terms of
>> belief. Pierce says that truth is what is so whether you are I or
>> anyone else believes it. I think Pierce's take is what we usually mean
>> by truth. Rorty says that pragmatism doesn't really have a theory if
>> truth. Truth is just the property that all true startments have in
>> common and pragmatists don't have anything philosphically interesting
>> to say about truth beyond that.
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> Regarding truth I wonder what the problem is? Need it any
> particular definition beyond the one given by the MOQ? The early
> Greek thinkers' search for eternal principle that ended with the
> greatest principle of them all TRUTH. In a SOL interpretation this
> was intellect emerging from the old mythological social level. So
> truth is a static  intellectual pattern, the notion of a rock bottom
> reality that science and knowledge will uncover if the search goes
> on and on. Why not use the mighty tool we have been given by
> Pirsig instead of all these lesser thinkeres of whom some may
> have been on to something, but are left in the dust by RMP. And
> DMB who praises "Bob" but makes it a point not speaking about
> the MOQ only some Pragmatism that you are right in wondering
> what is.
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