Hi DMB

18 Jan.

dmb says:

> "The MOQ is a continuation of the mainstream of 20th century American
> philosophy. It is a form of pragmatism, of instrumentalism, which says
> the test of the true is the good." 

OK, but read on    

LILA: (DMB's parenthesis)
    "James had chosen exactly the same words [static and 
    dynamic] Phaedrus had used for the basic subdivision of 
    the MOQ" (second to last page of chapter 29) "By this 
    [radical empiricism] he [James] meant that subjects and 
    objects are not the starting points of experience. 

Correct, but this gives me the opportunity to unravel two basic 
flaws. Flex your philosophical muscle and follow my reasoning: 

James suggested a metaphysics of a dynamic something ahead of 
static subjects and objects, Phaedrus (of ZAMM) did the same but 
called the first part Quality, the second (S & O) part he called 
"intellectual Quality" (the first MOQ's only level). 

In ZAMM's diagram section a strange thing occurs. The box called 
"Quality"  (that necessarily must be DQ) is divided (an operation 
that corresponds to the dynamic followed by the static) but the 
diagram shows a unscathed Quality above DQ/SQ. This may be 
done with motorcycles that remains whole after a theoretical 
division, but once James and Pirsig had postulated something 
ahead of the S/O  they had created a dualism. Agree?  

>From this "diagram fallacy" the mis-conception of a Quality/ MOQ 
metaphysics springs, where Quality is the real thing with the MOQ 
some theoretical play with words. This is positively wrong  Quality 
is intrinsically part of the MOQ. Another "fast one" is Pirsig's 
statement that SOM splits a pre-existing reality the S/O way. The 
point is that SOM does NOT recognize anything before subjects 
and objects, THAT was James' and Pirsig's revolutionary insight

This is what the SOL interpretation puts right.  

IMO

Bo 

  




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