Hi Mel,

You seem to be arguing for Stephen Jay Gould's notion of "non-overlapping magisteria" or NOMA. What I couldn't figure out from your post is what these two different projects are. It was clear that you see science as our best attempt at honest inquiry, but what is it that you see religion as doing or supposed to be doing? It seems to me that if there are truths to be known whether they are about human flourishing or the orbits of planets, then we can try to know them. Why do we need religion if we have in hand an MOQ idea of science as the study of stable patterns of value? We have sciences that studies inorganic patterns (physics and chemistry), sciences that study biological patterns (biology and zoology), sciences that study social patterns (sociology and psychology), and sciences that study intellectual patterns (mathematics and linguistics). What would we need religion for? Oh, yeah, I left out Dynamic Quality! Is that what religion is supposed to be about? Maybe, but it's supposed to be, but is it? Is it really????

Why can't science study the benefits of different uses of attention (meditation, prayer, affirmations) on human well being? If morality is concerned with human flourishing, why can't science study which cultures are successful or unsuccessful in achieving that goal? Why do we have to think of morality and spirituality as out of bounds to rational inquiry? If there is a purpose for religion in society in promoting human well-being as a social pattern, then it seems to me that science can study that and some day say what that purpose is and why it is or is not important.

Best,
Steve

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