At 07:47 AM 2/4/2009, you wrote:
Hi Marsha,


It seems to me, religions reify experience into religious objects.
Science reifies experience into scientific objects. The MOQ seems to point to the merit of the actual experience, and the experience prior to concepts.

I'm not sure I understand what the point of this thread is. Are there questions you have about the experience of red? You seem to be unimpressed by the answers Krimel presented that science has about red, but you haven't asked any questions beyond, what does science say about red?

Best,
Steve

Greetings Steve,

My question was about what science tells us about the _experience_ of red. This was just an auxiliary question. The primary question was also about _experience_: 'It is my impression that the mystical experience is without self and objects, in the land before language. How does science deal with that?'

Not to worry. I'm perfectly willing to let the subject drop. I can ponder it on my own time.


Marsha






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