MP:
> I would suggest that the extraction of reason from faith has led to the 
> reduction 
of the strength that is greater than the difference of the parts. We end up 
with 
faith less reason, reason less faith, and the sum of the two apart is less than 
the 
total of the two combined as one. 

>In a sense, one can say that the difference between the two sums is Quality. 
>;-)

>IMO its no accident (or surprise) that the Eastern faiths are not all that 
>amazed 
at an MoQ understanding; they did not make the faith/reason split that the West 
did, and MoQ is nothing more than a return to a more unified metaphysical 
understanding that unites faith and reason.


Paco:
I think so too.

Anselm (or was it Augustine?) posited: 'I do not desire to understand in order 
to 
believe, I believe in order to understand.'

Paco:

Anselm's approach: Fides quaerens intellectum.
Non-theistic approach (?): Intellectus quaerens fidem.


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