Bo said: ...DMB represents the view that the pre-everything's unity is destroyed by our "definitions and conceptualizations.
dmb says: Huh? Concepts and definitions don't destroy anything. They simply express and stabilize particulars. These static patterns are derived from DQ and are distinguished from it like a snapshot captures and stabilizes a moment from the total visual field. I don't see how a photograph could destroy the world of light from which it is derived any more that I can see how static patterns destroy DQ. I was thinking about one of the early scenes in ZAMM, where all four travelers are outside their motel talking about ghosts. It's something like a prelude to what's coming. It's gonna be a bit of a ghost story insofar as the narrator is being pursued by Phaedrus and, more to the point, this scene is where the reader is introduced to the idea that the law of gravity is a ghost, that it's in the "mind" of Europeans and that this a cultural difference between Western people and the Indians who just don't see that kind of ghost. On the other hand, the Indians have their own ghosts and that they seem just as real to Indians as gravity does to us. In the language of Lila, this is where the reader is introduced to the idea that there is more than one way to conceptualize experienced reality. This cultural difference can reasonable be compared to the difference between SOM and the MOQ, although the latter difference is philosophical and deliberate rather than simply inherited. This early scene is also the prelude to the attack on SOM. Here he is already saying that "gravity" is not objectively real, that it is subjective, contrary to what most Western people think. _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Contacts: Organize your contact list. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/marcusatmicrosoft.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!503D1D86EBB2B53C!2285.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_UGC_Contacts_032009 Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
