On Mar 2, 2009, at 12:35:22 PM, "X Acto" <[email protected]> wrote:
Ron, you put it well. That is exactly why I want to experience Quality by traveling the road posted with the road signs of Metaphysics of Quality. I think of it as tuning into (or living) that frequency, if only for a while. Harmony is a good metaphor. Willblake2 Will, Exactly, the main choice, the big value is the value of shaping quality. does quality happen or do we mold it in our likeness? if we mold it we have control of it, to be aware of this control is the first step in purposful action. Touching on the concept of virtue, virtue , as you say is the intent of harmony. vice, it is said is the blindness to this awareness. That which harmonizes endures. In the west God is love, a virtue. the buddist say that love is a form of attachment and leads to suffering, a vice. Once one loves everything equally, love as we know it, ceases to exist. -Ron ________________________________ From: markhsmit <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 2:42:41 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Faith/Skepticism On Mar 2, 2009, at 11:26:16 AM, "X Acto" <[email protected]> wrote: Will: Current theories are very one-sided as though we are evolving into some random process (this world, nature), by some random process (natural selection), making us completely random (natural?). Which means that our thoughts are random and meaningless (I know that is a jump). And of course any concept of a separate God (and I am agnostic) falls by the wayside, which doesn't bother me. But, if indeed life is viewed through this prism of chance, all philosophy is chance, as well, and we fall into an existential dilemma of truth and meaning. I've been there and it is a pretty useless existence. So, either your life has meaning or it doesn't, or maybe on good days it does. You choose your reality, others can choose theirs; this is a random process after-all, roll the dice... Ron: As the dice are limited in it's form -sides and combonations and the force of the roll, likewise evolutions randomness is limited by criteria of existence. Form is the power of intention. knowing this, forging meaning holds much responsibilty and is as useful as one puts it to use. Of what use is a newborn baby? Willblake2: I like that Ron. It reminds me of my foray into Toltec shamanism. At that time (and maybe now) I thought of Intent as being the root of all, not Quality. Intent, which is active, certainly describes the universe for me in a meaningful way. Intent incorporates Quality. Willblake2 Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
