Hello Marsha:
Perhaps this thought will help: saying that the brain chemistry is creating thoughts is like saying that internal combustion drives cars. Like cars, thoughts also require a motive chemical reaction but that reaction doesn't determine where either the cars or the thoughts are going. Thoughts are, using a very MoQ definition, patterns of value. They are the response to other patterns of value (including inorganic, biological, social and intellectual povs). Now do you see a little more of my love/hate relationship with the MoQ? -david swift > >[Krimel] > >Intellect is a biological function that evolved in higher primates. > >It is what assures the survival of our species. Social behavior > >evolves even earlier. > >[Marsha] >This is confusing to me. You are saying that intellect, by which I >take you to mean thinking, is a biological function. Do you mean the >brain? Is the relationship a causation or a correlation. And what >of social behavior which you are saying evolved earlier? Is it >biological? How so? >[Krimel] >Intellect developed in humans in the same way that speed developed in >cheetahs. Those who had more of it in the past were better able to >scatter their genes into the present. I don't think you could find much >argument that thinking is correlated with brain activity. Or that >particular kinds of >experience can be correlated with increased activity in particular >parts of the brain. I am personally convinced that the relationship is >very much causal. I think studies of individuals with particular kinds >of brain damage >show impairment of specific functions that are caused by the damage. >There are a variety of lesion studies in animals that back this up as well. [Marsha] There is a difference between causal and correlation, and I'm still not sure which you think it is when it comes to thinking. You used both terms. If it's causal, *** is it the brain chemistry creating the thoughts or the thoughts manipulating the brain chemistry ***. A correlation would mean a reciprocal relation or interdependence. So I'm still confused what to you meant. Also you didn't exactly state anything definitive about social behavior, which you stated came earlier than thinking. Was it biological or not. It was difficult to know where the last sentence should be applied. The previous paragraph was all about social behavior and stated nothing about biological processes. . Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
