Michael:
I have been up front about using the word "faith" and with a specific meaning:
"affirmation absent proof"
So with *this* definition of faith, prove my initial statement wrong that it
takes
faith to affirm Quality. Prove to me that a rock is a rock for the same reason
a
dog lays down in the sun; because of Quality. Show me the objective rational
measure of Quality you use to affirm it.
If you can, you are not affirming the same Quality as Pirsig.
Pirsig is quite clear that Quality cannot be defined. If you can't define
something
you can't prove it. To prove something is to define it. If you affirm something
you
cannot define, you are affirming something you cannot prove, it is an
"affirmation absent proof."
Faith.
Ron:
To prove something may be to experience it. Perhaps this is the meaning you
miss.
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