[Michael] > Again: faith = affirmation absent proof. Ron: You seem to be implying abstract symbols which have no correspondance with experience. Math and God may fall into this catagory. Quality, as we understand it, and I have stated before, is experience. You experience do you not? you react to your environment do you not? these are "proof" of quality. We bathe in the proof of quality at every moment. This is not faith this is be-ing. did you have to have faith to be born? must you have faith to hunger, to sleep, to deficate?
________________________________ From: Michael Poloukhine <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:33:21 PM Subject: Re: [MD] Faith/Skepticism > [Michael] > Again: faith = affirmation absent proof. > > [Arlo] > Let me ask it this way. MP: Again, Arlo, *you* are making the infinite reductionist argument (not *I*) that we need faith (definition 2) for everything in your attempt to protect MoQ from what is in fact only your perception that I am saying it takes faith (definition 1) to hold it. I don't make the infinite reductionist argument because its nihilistically pointless and leads to no conclusion whatsoever AND I'm not making the criticism of MoQ you think I am. See my post to Andre. MP ---- "Don't believe everything you think." Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
