[Michael]
Again, Arlo, *you* are making the infinite reductionist argument (not *I*) that
we need faith (definition 2) for everything in your attempt to protect MoQ from
what is in fact only your perception that I am saying it takes faith
(definition 1) to hold it.

[Arlo]
Oh really? Give me an example of any philosophy or idea you feel we can know
absent "faith". You seem to allude to the idea that "science" is not based in
faith. Is that right? Or is science rooted in faith as well (in your opinion)?

If *I* am making the "reductionist argument", then prove me wrong. Give me
examples, in your opinion, of ideas we can hold absent "faith". I've already
said the MOQ is one such idea that requires no faith. YOU say, uh uh, the MOQ
requires faith too. So, what DOES NOT require "faith", in your opinion?


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