> [Michael] > Again, Arlo, *you* are making the infinite reductionist argument (not *I*) > that > we need faith (definition 2) for everything in your attempt to protect MoQ > from > what is in fact only your perception that I am saying it takes faith > (definition 1) to hold it. > > [Arlo] > Oh really? Give me an example of any philosophy or idea you feel we > can know absent "faith".
MP: To what end? Any answer is irrelevant to my point and only feeds into your incessant attempts to deflect from my as of yet un-answered critique. I direct you again to my post to Andre about the words "faith" "proof" and "blind." Read that please. I have shown that to argue science is also contingent on faith is to re-define the word faith as I have used it (and been clear about it from the outset: definition 2) to allow you to deconstruct my point and avoid its knife. But that is to ignore my point, not prove it wrong. You ask me to do something that is entirely irrelevant to my point as if in finding me unable to answer you will have proven it wrong. It won't Alro. All we have is that you are persisting in actively avoiding my point. Stop deflecting. Answer my point on its merits; prove through reason that a rock is a rock because a dog sits in the sun, OR acknowledge that MoQ relies on faith (definition 2) to turn quality into MoQ's Quality. Anything else is pedantic avoidance on your part. YOU first used the word faith as a means to attack theism in the face of MoQ. THEN in defense of MoQ you would have me believe that faith is irrelevant. You only prove my point about your criticisms of theism v. MoQ that relied on "faith." Your defense defeats itself AND hurts MoQ in the process if one abides by it. You're lost Arlo, you've come round the horn and defeated your own point and it leaves me wondering why I even bother to continue this line of discussion. MP ---- "Don't believe everything you think." Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
