That the word "morals" has such static weight is not the problem of Pirsig's
MoQ, which I find deeply moralistic in the broadest understanding of morality.
Its a problem of the static latching others have imbued the concept of "morals"
in a practical, and notably societal reality.
But seems to me, we should not fear a "moral" label to MoQ just as we should
not fear "faith" one. We should simply encourage broader, dynamically open
understandings of those otherwise societally statically charged terms.
My attempts with this abortion discussion, to be sure ill-fated from a
statistical
perspective, are nothing more than another attempt to see if those who
(supposedly) understand MoQ better than I do can help shed light on the
practical realities in which Pirsig has set up MoQ as a better, fuller, more
encompassing way of understanding.
Ron:
I agree, but it is not so much a method but a way of looking at assumptions as
you
have noted.
> Ham wrote:
> This may be why you're not scoring with the MoQists on this
> particular topic, Michael.
MP: Not sure what you mean by "scoring."
I'm just trying to learn about MoQ and notably its practical attributes to
experiencing reality, to living. I had hoped to have more success in theoretic
and logical analysis in this regard from those who are here as the MoQ's
standard bearers. I am frustrated in this regard; I wonder if I wouldn't be
better
off just sorting it out for myself and right/wrong along with the rest be
damned.
Ron:
On MoQ and analytic. (read Matts post on Quine)
MP:
Seems like what MoQers here have done; I find little consistency in
understanding of MoQ among folks here. It seems to all be static defense of
personal interpretations, not a process of ongoing introspective questioning.
In
that sense it does seem like a "scoring" process rather than a collaborative
search / inquire / learn / reveal process.
Maybe I sense this because I wear the colors normally attributed by MoQers
here to the "opposing team"?
Ron:
You do tend towards those "hot button" topics which are the typical topics
exhibited
by those not of the mind of having an open discussion. You are relativly new,
let people
get to know you a bit, have patience. Analytics, dialectics in the effort to
nail down
MoQ latches, goes against what it means about self inquirey.
MP
----
"Don't believe everything you think."
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