Hey Ron, 

[Ron]
> Also Michael,
> The Quality you would like to pin down IS meaningless, it only has
> meaning
> in context to the individual experience. Thus it can not, and will not be
> universally
> agreed apon. The latching you seek amounts to alot of tail chasing in this
> regard.
> 
> Whats good for you is bad for me, whats good for you is good for me,
> whats
> bad for you is good for me, whats bad for you is bad for me each in it's
> context.
> 
> How can one hope to come to any sort of universal latch? for everything is
> contextual.
> I think most of the discussions you have initiated have come to this
> conclusion.
 
Looks to me like good old situational ethics with relativism thrown in for 
good measure. This makes the MOQ mostly irrelevant as a moral inquiry 
because in situational or contextual ethics all values are subjective.  

What I really find amusing is how some people are for abortion on demand 
depending on the situation but against capital punishment in all  
situations. But, hypocrisy is not uncommon among contextualists who, 
without so much as nod to self-contradiction, assert the universality of 
their position. 

Platt
.

    
 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Michael Poloukhine <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2009 1:24:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Morality, Abortion and the MoQ
> 
> 
> 
> > Ron wrote
> > You touch on a very important point, in MoQ, the term morality takes
> > on a different meaning, it's not a guide
> > to distinguish right from wrong or even the common understanding of
> > betterness, but the understanding
> > of tendancies toward certain types static patterns and their
> > relationships.
> 
> MP: I take issue with that statement, Ron. I don't think it is accurate to
> MoQ. 
> Quality implies what humans perceive as "better" over "worse." Without
> that 
> distinction, Quality is meaningless. Pirsig goes into great detail to show
> this in 
> ZMM. These "certain types" of patterns toward which things tend in Quality
> experience are "better" than the one from which they tend.
> 
> MP
> ----
> "Don't believe everything you think."
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