[Michael]
Post the link where I did otherwise or shut the hell up about it
already, its getting annoying and childish.
[Arlo]
YOU said, that the AFFIRMATION of that experience AS Quality takes faith.
I asked, does all experience "affirmed" take faith? If not, provide
ONE experience we affirm AS something that does NOT take faith.
You couldn't name one. Can you now?
You said, "As such, I was right; you have no place to affirm that
Quality is any more valid than Leprechaunism, as they are both based
on faith, and as such all entirely a subjective choice to believe in
one thing or another as being true, valid or even real."
Hence, leprechauns, god or Quality are all matters of "faith". We
have no more evidence of Quality than we do of Leprechauns of God.
You think you get around the reductionism by saying you are "using a
specific definition of faith". "It's all just flavors of Kool-Aid".
You keep insisting *I* said all this, when it my MY assertion that
Quality requires NO faith that got your dander up. YOU replied saying
"believing" in Quality is akin to "believing" in god or leprechauns.
I said NO. YOU said YES.
So then I asked, if Quality takes faith... WHAT DOESN'T?
This was when you replied "experiencing Quality" does not require
faith, but "affirming" that experience as Quality takes faith.
So I asked (as I stated above), does ALL experience AFFIRMED require
faith? Or are there some experiences we can "affirm" that does not
require "faith" in so doing? Can you give examples?
So here you go. As straight as I can say it. Quality DOES NOT require
faith. Hence, how you claim that *I* am reducing everything to
"faith" is just horrible rhetoric.
YOU say it ALL requires faith. I ask, if Quality requires faith, what
DOESN'T? YOU have wrapped a blanket of "faith" around Quality to
protect "theism" from being dismissed as being "faith-based". But
YOUR blanket catches everything, and your only escape is that you
dissect faith into different kinds of "faith". But its all still faith.
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