[Ron]
Diplomacy is saying "nice doggy" until you can find a big enough rock  

I don't think I ever changed anyones view by simply calling them an asshole

It certainly can be frustrating I agree, but arent we out to change minds?
not close them tighter?

bitching em out just seems like the easy path.

[Krimel]
Nice doggie... I like that one.

But do you seriously think that anyone in this country capable of fogging a
mirror has not heard all of this? Is it at all likely that anyone
participating in this forum will have their mind changed about the merits of
this issue or say something that hasn't already been said? I think name
calling is about as productive way to proceed as any. The only thing Michael
has said that seemed right so far is that this topic has not really come up
before and this is why.
 



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