KO,

Well, this doesn't sound good. Do you consider my mind to be chaotic? I do not experience it as chaotic. Nor from your post do I have reason to consider your mind to be chaotic. I like van Vleit's combination of words. They seem interesting. I cannot, though, find their meaning. Isn't Quantum Theory also suppose to be beyond meaning? Very dynamic!


Marsha


At 11:17 AM 4/16/2009, you wrote:
Marsha,

just think of it as a dynamic response from one chaotic mind to another.

-KO

2009/4/16 MarshaV <[email protected]>

>
>
> Not irrelevant, just not understood.  - Marsha
>
>
>
>
> At 06:39 AM 4/16/2009, you wrote:
>
>> Marsha, yes, apparently we are very different.
>> You usually put song lyrics as a first email with its own subject. I take
>> a
>> look at the lyrics and then simply choose part of its context that i then
>> juxtapose with a Don van Vleit lyric - so your song contexts are fine -
>> its
>> probably my replies that seem irrelevant.
>>
>> -KO
>>
>> 2009/4/16 MarshaV <[email protected]>
>>
>> >
>> > KO,
>> >
>> > You keep insinuating that I know something of what you are stating.  I
>> may
>> > or may not.  The context of your statements are probably very different
>> than
>> > the context of my hearing them.  You and I are very different
>> constellations
>> > of static patterns of value.  There will be shared patterns but I would
>> bet
>> > the relationships between them are more different than the same.  So no,
>> I
>> > don't "know that".  You put sex and violence into a context I would
>> never
>> > consider them.  And I bet I put song lyrics into a context that seems
>> > irrelevant.
>> >
>> >
>> > Marsha
>> >
>> >
>> > At 02:29 AM 4/16/2009, you wrote:
>> >
>> >> Marsha,
>> >>
>> >> i was not trying to prompt a discussion about sex and violence and you
>> >> know
>> >> that; i was merely highlighting a 'pattern' that for me in no way can
>> be
>> >> said to be true - it just aint good english!
>> >> When someone uses a word in an unfamiliar way ' all patterns are true'
>> it
>> >> is
>> >> they who must define what they mean.
>> >>
>> >> -KO
>> >>
>> >> 2009/4/15 MarshaV <[email protected]>
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > KO,
>> >> >
>> >> > Maybe you can define what you mean by true and real.   Is there a
>> >> > difference between experience and patterns?  Are the experience of
>> >> loving
>> >> > the same as one's thoughts about love?  I suppose that depends on how
>> >> much
>> >> > one is willing to ignore the thoughts and be with the experience.  Is
>> >> maybe
>> >> > real, like in reality, a series of nanoseconds of experience?
>> >> >
>> >> > I would prefer not to link sex and violence even in a post, so let's
>> >> drop
>> >> > it.  I've dropped cable and network television from my life for that
>> >> very
>> >> > reason.  Has something awful slipped through with my lyrics?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Marsha
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > At 01:25 PM 4/15/2009, you wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi Marsha,
>> >> >> sorry if you received this twice - i got a 40k limit rejection
>> message
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> i think applied to this email originally - i've cut out most of the
>> >> >> associated quoted text now.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> i think the patterns are real - not true.
>> >> >> When a woman or man starts to identify sex with violence then at
>> same
>> >> time
>> >> >> they start associate violence with sex when it should be love. How
>> can
>> >> >> this
>> >> >> be called true? It does not make sense to me. -KO
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 2009/4/13 MarshaV <[email protected]>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> KO,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> What do you think?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> m
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> At 04:13 AM 4/13/2009, you wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>  Hello KO,
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Well, wanting a cigarette is sometimes still an experience for
>> me.
>> >> >>  I've
>> >> >> >>> actually thought of getting a dozen cartons and seeing if I
>> could
>> >> >> smoke
>> >> >> >>> every cigarette within twenty-four hours.  But I I haven't yet.
>>   I
>> >> >> stopped
>> >> >> >>> smoking because I thought a full breath was more fun than a
>> labored
>> >> >> breath.
>> >> >> >>>  (I live in a stairmaster.)  That seemed true at the time,
>> but...
>> >> >> Also, I
>> >> >> >>> live alone, so there was no one I would be in danger of killing.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> All these static patterns of value are true.  Unless, of course,
>> >> one
>> >> >> has
>> >> >> >>> discovered they are all false.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Marsha
>> >> >> >>>
>>
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