Marsha, yes, apparently we are very different. You usually put song lyrics as a first email with its own subject. I take a look at the lyrics and then simply choose part of its context that i then juxtapose with a Don van Vleit lyric - so your song contexts are fine - its probably my replies that seem irrelevant.
-KO 2009/4/16 MarshaV <[email protected]> > > KO, > > You keep insinuating that I know something of what you are stating. I may > or may not. The context of your statements are probably very different than > the context of my hearing them. You and I are very different constellations > of static patterns of value. There will be shared patterns but I would bet > the relationships between them are more different than the same. So no, I > don't "know that". You put sex and violence into a context I would never > consider them. And I bet I put song lyrics into a context that seems > irrelevant. > > > Marsha > > > At 02:29 AM 4/16/2009, you wrote: > >> Marsha, >> >> i was not trying to prompt a discussion about sex and violence and you >> know >> that; i was merely highlighting a 'pattern' that for me in no way can be >> said to be true - it just aint good english! >> When someone uses a word in an unfamiliar way ' all patterns are true' it >> is >> they who must define what they mean. >> >> -KO >> >> 2009/4/15 MarshaV <[email protected]> >> >> > >> > KO, >> > >> > Maybe you can define what you mean by true and real. Is there a >> > difference between experience and patterns? Are the experience of >> loving >> > the same as one's thoughts about love? I suppose that depends on how >> much >> > one is willing to ignore the thoughts and be with the experience. Is >> maybe >> > real, like in reality, a series of nanoseconds of experience? >> > >> > I would prefer not to link sex and violence even in a post, so let's >> drop >> > it. I've dropped cable and network television from my life for that >> very >> > reason. Has something awful slipped through with my lyrics? >> > >> > >> > Marsha >> > >> > >> > >> > At 01:25 PM 4/15/2009, you wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Marsha, >> >> sorry if you received this twice - i got a 40k limit rejection message >> >> that >> >> i think applied to this email originally - i've cut out most of the >> >> associated quoted text now. >> >> >> >> >> >> i think the patterns are real - not true. >> >> When a woman or man starts to identify sex with violence then at same >> time >> >> they start associate violence with sex when it should be love. How can >> >> this >> >> be called true? It does not make sense to me. -KO >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > 2009/4/13 MarshaV <[email protected]> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> KO, >> >> >> >> >> >> What do you think? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> m >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> At 04:13 AM 4/13/2009, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello KO, >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Well, wanting a cigarette is sometimes still an experience for me. >> >> I've >> >> >>> actually thought of getting a dozen cartons and seeing if I could >> >> smoke >> >> >>> every cigarette within twenty-four hours. But I I haven't yet. I >> >> stopped >> >> >>> smoking because I thought a full breath was more fun than a labored >> >> breath. >> >> >>> (I live in a stairmaster.) That seemed true at the time, but... >> >> Also, I >> >> >>> live alone, so there was no one I would be in danger of killing. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> All these static patterns of value are true. Unless, of course, >> one >> >> has >> >> >>> discovered they are all false. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Marsha >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> >> Archives: >> >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> >> >> > >> > . >> > _____________ >> > >> > Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the >> stars......... >> > . >> > . >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list >> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> > Archives: >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > > . > _____________ > > Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars......... > . > . > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
