Marsha, yes, on re-reading that does sound as if i am saying your mind is chaotic - i meant only mine to be chaotic and was rather intending 'from one mind to another'. Glad you like van Vleit's words - that makes you one of the few people i know who does, and i am doubly reassured by the fact that you are also an artist; even the Chaos King Krimel the Poet doesnt appreciate van Vleit!
If van Vleit's words seem interesting then that is enough - dont grasp for meaning! -KO 2009/4/16 MarshaV <[email protected]> > > KO, > > Well, this doesn't sound good. Do you consider my mind to be chaotic? I > do not experience it as chaotic. Nor from your post do I have reason to > consider your mind to be chaotic. I like van Vleit's combination of words. > They seem interesting. I cannot, though, find their meaning. Isn't Quantum > Theory also suppose to be beyond meaning? Very dynamic! > > > Marsha > > > > At 11:17 AM 4/16/2009, you wrote: > >> Marsha, >> >> just think of it as a dynamic response from one chaotic mind to another. >> >> -KO >> >> 2009/4/16 MarshaV <[email protected]> >> >> > >> > >> > Not irrelevant, just not understood. - Marsha >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > At 06:39 AM 4/16/2009, you wrote: >> > >> >> Marsha, yes, apparently we are very different. >> >> You usually put song lyrics as a first email with its own subject. I >> take >> >> a >> >> look at the lyrics and then simply choose part of its context that i >> then >> >> juxtapose with a Don van Vleit lyric - so your song contexts are fine - >> >> its >> >> probably my replies that seem irrelevant. >> >> >> >> -KO >> >> >> >> 2009/4/16 MarshaV <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > KO, >> >> > >> >> > You keep insinuating that I know something of what you are stating. >> I >> >> may >> >> > or may not. The context of your statements are probably very >> different >> >> than >> >> > the context of my hearing them. You and I are very different >> >> constellations >> >> > of static patterns of value. There will be shared patterns but I >> would >> >> bet >> >> > the relationships between them are more different than the same. So >> no, >> >> I >> >> > don't "know that". You put sex and violence into a context I would >> >> never >> >> > consider them. And I bet I put song lyrics into a context that seems >> >> > irrelevant. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Marsha >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > At 02:29 AM 4/16/2009, you wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Marsha, >> >> >> >> >> >> i was not trying to prompt a discussion about sex and violence and >> you >> >> >> know >> >> >> that; i was merely highlighting a 'pattern' that for me in no way >> can >> >> be >> >> >> said to be true - it just aint good english! >> >> >> When someone uses a word in an unfamiliar way ' all patterns are >> true' >> >> it >> >> >> is >> >> >> they who must define what they mean. >> >> >> >> >> >> -KO >> >> >> >> >> >> 2009/4/15 MarshaV <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > KO, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Maybe you can define what you mean by true and real. Is there a >> >> >> > difference between experience and patterns? Are the experience of >> >> >> loving >> >> >> > the same as one's thoughts about love? I suppose that depends on >> how >> >> >> much >> >> >> > one is willing to ignore the thoughts and be with the experience. >> Is >> >> >> maybe >> >> >> > real, like in reality, a series of nanoseconds of experience? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I would prefer not to link sex and violence even in a post, so >> let's >> >> >> drop >> >> >> > it. I've dropped cable and network television from my life for >> that >> >> >> very >> >> >> > reason. Has something awful slipped through with my lyrics? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Marsha >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > At 01:25 PM 4/15/2009, you wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Hi Marsha, >> >> >> >> sorry if you received this twice - i got a 40k limit rejection >> >> message >> >> >> >> that >> >> >> >> i think applied to this email originally - i've cut out most of >> the >> >> >> >> associated quoted text now. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> i think the patterns are real - not true. >> >> >> >> When a woman or man starts to identify sex with violence then at >> >> same >> >> >> time >> >> >> >> they start associate violence with sex when it should be love. >> How >> >> can >> >> >> >> this >> >> >> >> be called true? It does not make sense to me. -KO >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > 2009/4/13 MarshaV <[email protected]> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> KO, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What do you think? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> m >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> At 04:13 AM 4/13/2009, you wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello KO, >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> Well, wanting a cigarette is sometimes still an experience >> for >> >> me. >> >> >> >> I've >> >> >> >> >>> actually thought of getting a dozen cartons and seeing if I >> >> could >> >> >> >> smoke >> >> >> >> >>> every cigarette within twenty-four hours. But I I haven't >> yet. >> >> I >> >> >> >> stopped >> >> >> >> >>> smoking because I thought a full breath was more fun than a >> >> labored >> >> >> >> breath. >> >> >> >> >>> (I live in a stairmaster.) That seemed true at the time, >> >> but... >> >> >> >> Also, I >> >> >> >> >>> live alone, so there was no one I would be in danger of >> killing. >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> All these static patterns of value are true. Unless, of >> course, >> >> >> one >> >> >> >> has >> >> >> >> >>> discovered they are all false. >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> Marsha >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ >> > > . > _____________ > > Shoot for the moon. 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