KO,
You keep insinuating that I know something of what you are
stating. I may or may not. The context of your statements are
probably very different than the context of my hearing them. You and
I are very different constellations of static patterns of
value. There will be shared patterns but I would bet the
relationships between them are more different than the same. So no,
I don't "know that". You put sex and violence into a context I would
never consider them. And I bet I put song lyrics into a context that
seems irrelevant.
Marsha
At 02:29 AM 4/16/2009, you wrote:
Marsha,
i was not trying to prompt a discussion about sex and violence and you know
that; i was merely highlighting a 'pattern' that for me in no way can be
said to be true - it just aint good english!
When someone uses a word in an unfamiliar way ' all patterns are true' it is
they who must define what they mean.
-KO
2009/4/15 MarshaV <[email protected]>
>
> KO,
>
> Maybe you can define what you mean by true and real. Is there a
> difference between experience and patterns? Are the experience of loving
> the same as one's thoughts about love? I suppose that depends on how much
> one is willing to ignore the thoughts and be with the experience. Is maybe
> real, like in reality, a series of nanoseconds of experience?
>
> I would prefer not to link sex and violence even in a post, so let's drop
> it. I've dropped cable and network television from my life for that very
> reason. Has something awful slipped through with my lyrics?
>
>
> Marsha
>
>
>
> At 01:25 PM 4/15/2009, you wrote:
>
>> Hi Marsha,
>> sorry if you received this twice - i got a 40k limit rejection message
>> that
>> i think applied to this email originally - i've cut out most of the
>> associated quoted text now.
>>
>>
>> i think the patterns are real - not true.
>> When a woman or man starts to identify sex with violence then at same time
>> they start associate violence with sex when it should be love. How can
>> this
>> be called true? It does not make sense to me. -KO
>>
>>
>> >
>> > 2009/4/13 MarshaV <[email protected]>
>> >
>> >
>> >> KO,
>> >>
>> >> What do you think?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> m
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At 04:13 AM 4/13/2009, you wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello KO,
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Well, wanting a cigarette is sometimes still an experience for me.
>> I've
>> >>> actually thought of getting a dozen cartons and seeing if I could
>> smoke
>> >>> every cigarette within twenty-four hours. But I I haven't yet. I
>> stopped
>> >>> smoking because I thought a full breath was more fun than a labored
>> breath.
>> >>> (I live in a stairmaster.) That seemed true at the time, but...
>> Also, I
>> >>> live alone, so there was no one I would be in danger of killing.
>> >>>
>> >>> All these static patterns of value are true. Unless, of course, one
>> has
>> >>> discovered they are all false.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Marsha
>> >>>
>> >>>
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