> >[Marsha] > >By conventional truth I mean a pattern that is relational, > >ever-changing and conceptually constructed. What of a conventional > >truth is shared? Are you, six letters with some kind of relationship > >to crime, shared? > > > >[Krimel] > >Conventions may have those properties but a convention is shared. The term > >has no meaning in the context of the individual. Letters are shared > >conventions my explanation for the etymology of my name is likewise shared. > >In short EVERYTHING about a "conventional truth" is shared. That is what > >makes it conventional. > >Marsha >Can you name one static of pattern (meaning) that is shared >100%? Each particular will have its little deviation. > >[Krimel] >Of course not, neither in terms of 100% of people agreeing nor of two people >sharing 100% overlap in understanding. Fortunately neither of these is >required of a conventional understanding. The issue is really about how much >overlap (short of 100%) do we actually need to communicate and share >understanding. The science of information theory is all about this. >Communication and convention are the ability the exchange meaning and >messages. Or to be more precise reduction in uncertainty. Evolutionary >success for example, depends in reducing uncertainty and ANY reduction >confers selective advantage. This is as true of memes are of genes. This is >how we evaluate concepts and conventions. We determine how meaningful they >are by how well they reduce uncertainty. It is reduction not absolute >reduction that is critical.
Marsha The existence of zebras is a conventional truth. Are using the phrase 'conventional truth' differently? [Krimel] I think so unless this a trick question. I have experienced zebras and my individual concepts of zebrahood are different from yours but our shared convention with regards to zebras is a 'conventional truth' even though there is uncertainty as to the exact amount of overlaps in our individual experience. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
