At 01:51 PM 4/19/2009, you wrote:
>[Marsha]
>By conventional truth I mean a pattern that is relational,
>ever-changing and conceptually constructed. What of a conventional
>truth is shared? Are you, six letters with some kind of relationship
>to crime, shared?
>
>[Krimel]
>Conventions may have those properties but a convention is shared. The term
>has no meaning in the context of the individual. Letters are shared
>conventions my explanation for the etymology of my name is likewise shared.
>In short EVERYTHING about a "conventional truth" is shared. That is what
>makes it conventional.
Marsha
Can you name one static of pattern (meaning) that is shared
100%? Each particular will have its little deviation.
[Krimel]
Of course not, neither in terms of 100% of people agreeing nor of two people
sharing 100% overlap in understanding. Fortunately neither of these is
required of a conventional understanding. The issue is really about how much
overlap (short of 100%) do we actually need to communicate and share
understanding. The science of information theory is all about this.
Communication and convention are the ability the exchange meaning and
messages. Or to be more precise reduction in uncertainty. Evolutionary
success for example, depends in reducing uncertainty and ANY reduction
confers selective advantage. This is as true of memes are of genes. This is
how we evaluate concepts and conventions. We determine how meaningful they
are by how well they reduce uncertainty. It is reduction not absolute
reduction that is critical.
Krimel,
The existence of zebras is a conventional truth. Are using the
phrase 'conventional truth' differently?
Marsha
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