On 9 May 2009 at 11:55, david buchanan wrote:

> 
> Ian said to Platt:MoQ Support for the free market is plain and clear (as I 
> said). What is being misrepresented in propaganda is what a "free market" is.
> 
> dmb says:
> It's not even true, let alone plain and clear. Platt's misrepresentations 
> depend on ignoring the difference between social quality and intellectual 
> quality. Pirsig discusses socialism and capitalism in terms of the struggle 
> between those two levels of static quality and he does so at length. In the 
> language of common sense, Platt's contention is simply that the buying and 
> selling of things is more important and more moral than human rights while 
> the MOQ says that such a view is wrong in both senses of the word, both 
> incorrect and immoral. 

Where did Platt say that buying and selling of things was more important 
than the human rights of free speech, trial by jury, gun ownership, etc., 
guaranteed in the U.S. Constitution? What the MOQ says is that as a social 
pattern (economics) the free market is better than socialism in creating 
goods and services because the free market takes DQ into account. Human 
rights do not alter that conclusion, and your reference to them sounds like 
the "amorphous soup of sentiments" espoused by 60's liberal intellectuals.
  
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