John, I am not a detractor of Platt, I just dislike his tactic of transferal from a relevant discussion of David Bohm and how system theory functions in relation to physics into demonizing him as a purveyor of evil. Convolutedly drawing a parallel from systems theory to Bolshevism.
Just to bait for an irrelevant arguement to incite yet another pointless degeneration into an Arlo/Krimel/Platt ad hominem flame war. -Ron ________________________________ From: John Carl <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 10:41:39 AM Subject: Re: [MD] Reductionism Platt inflamed: > So capitalism has killed as many as communism and fascism? Is that > your claim? Let's see some proof. Otherwise, you're just popping off, > trying to defend the indefensible. I sent a new thread that didn't go appear yet, perhaps exceeding some rule. But I was so glad to see Wired mag post an article on the subject dear to my heart, that I must dip my toe back in the water with you Platt. http://www.wired.com/culture/culturereviews/magazine/17-06/nep_newsocialism "The type of communism with which Gates hoped to tar the creators of Linux was born in an era of enforced borders, centralized communications, and top-heavy industrial processes. Those constraints gave rise to a type of collective ownership that replaced the brilliant chaos of a free market with scientific five-year plans devised by an all-powerful politburo. This political operating system failed, to put it mildly. However, unlike those older strains of red-flag socialism, the new socialism runs over a borderless Internet, through a tightly integrated global economy. It is designed to heighten individual autonomy and thwart centralization. It is decentralization extreme." I'm not quite as burned out on the subject as your many detractors, but I must ask you if you are perhaps fighting the wrong battles? Nobody wants to go back to communism the way it used to be; that's yesterday's news. What we need in this crisis time (and it must have made you cranky yesterday with all news outlets braying and the crashing of western capitalism falling down around our ears) is clear thinking about where to go from here and how. Or maybe we should just quit. Please read the article. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
