[Ron] This does seem to be the flaw in an arguement against a term that stands for a general abstract meaning. Systems of government is more accurately defined by the Governments which employed it. So it's not so much socialism is evil it's that Governments using those terms to define their system of Gov. are evil. Making the statement socialism is evil an empty vaugue claim.
[Krimel] Right, end results like genocide or cancer victims are the product of different systems interacting. Capitalism and socialism are economic systems. Their domain is the distribution of wealth. Politic systems can range from democracy to monarchy from anarchy to tyranny. The religious or moral domain also plays an important role. Just mixing the domains of economics, politics, and morals produces some strange brews. Trying to isolate and fix cause on a single domain seems to me to be the essence of SOM. [Ron] Socialism is mainly a response to Industrialized Capitalism. But leaders only used it for tighter control and totalitarian rule. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. The new boss had better PR people. Propaganda. these guys not only owned your body but your mind. So I would say, socialism was really not put into practice yet. The kabutz perhaps the closest. The US perhaps as a social democracy. [Krimel] Your point is well taken but let me remind you that humans beings most likely evolved and adapted as a result of socialism. The environment of early adaptation supported small groups of about 150 individuals. All property was held in common. People shared the fruits of their labors with their neighbors; "from each according to their ability and to each according to their need." That's how it works on "Lost". Jack didn't ask to be the leader. He became the leader because everyone started asking him what to do. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
