Krimel,
This does seem to be the flaw in an arguement against a term that
stands for a general abstract meaning. Systems of government
is more accurately defined by the Governments which employed it.
So it's not so much socialism is evil it's that Governments using those
terms to define their system of Gov. are evil. Making the statement
socialism is evil an empty vaugue claim.
Socialism is mainly a response to Industrialized Capitalism.
But leaders only used it for tighter control and totalitarian rule.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. The new boss had better
PR people. Propaganda. these guys not only owned your body but
your mind.
So I would say, socialism was really not put into practice yet. The kabutz
perhaps the closest. The US perhaps as a social democracy.


-Ron

 



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From: Krimel <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2009 7:20:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Reductionism

> Platt,
> Why not back up your own claim? lets see some numbers.
> Ron

[Platt]
Begin with the Holocaust: 6 million killed.

[Krimel]
It is interesting that you omit the Russians, Chinese and Cambodians this
time. It is hard to see how the economic system itself can be blamed for any
of them.

On the other hand the blood on capitalism's hands is a direct consequence of
the system itself. The tobacco industry has been a major economic force in
the west for the past 400 years. It has been known that it kills people for
the past sixty years. Last year it killed five million people world wide. It
seems one of the problems with measuring Quality and Value in terms of Body
Count is deciding what counts. 

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