Arlo and Craig,
The term socialism is very broad and holds a connotational propensity
(connotational propensity?? whew!) towards "social" which includes every
single society ever thought up or followed.  Hence opportunity for endless
debate among the various uses of the term.

So confining the term to the economic realm is a good idea, if you want a
meaningful debate.   For instance, Arlo, wiki contradicts your assertion
that Nazism wasn't socialism.  Nazism combined aspects of socialism and
capitalism.  It definitely used state control of industry, and biology and
intellect, for that matter.


> [Arlo]
> Personally I think the state should only concern itself with "civil
> unions",
> let "marriage" become just a "church" term.


I think that is the best solution also.  Let people find the terms they like
and use them.

Personally, when I got married it was something that had true meaning and
definition  between the two of us.  We jumped through the societal hoops
(mainly because she wanted it) but in my mind we were as married as any two
coyotes (which mate for life) without any comment or aknowledgement needed
from the rest of the world.   To my thinking then, this strident insistence
of the gay community for obtaining the label "marriage" is kinda silly in a
craving for acceptance way.

J



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