> dmb to Nick:
> Haven't you ever heard the saying that property is nine tenths of the law?
> That means, my paranoid friend, that 90% of the laws protect stuff, not
> people. That means, my ignorant friend, that the cops and armies work for
> property owners. They serve the rights of property, not human rights.
> 
> Andre:
> Agree dmb, and this is what I have been trying to convey to Platt and Ham
> and this time to this person called Nick (formerly woods) who doesn't even
> appear to know his own country's history nor the philosophical foundations
> upon which the Declaration of Independence rests nor the institution of
> Federal/local government. (who am I to even suggest this?).

Nick:
I know exactly the history of this country.  I know the government fails to 
protect 
such rights and violates them itself.  It is you that doesn't understand that 
initiating physical coercion is immoral and unlawful.  You are a criminal and 
proving 
I am not advocating a utopia.
It are governments that are the utopia dream that have failed miserably.  They 
are socialist 
and criminal.

Nick


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