dmb has done more than anyone on this list to engage folks and explain the moq. his repeated efforts are often met with arrogant ignorance.
but dave keeps on plugging away cos he understands that he is in a position of some responsibility and because he cares about what he's doing. i, for one, would like to acknowledge this. gav ps i think it is a good idea to let some sleeping folks lie.... if people haven't even read/understood the books...what is the point? --- On Mon, 8/6/09, blue-jay maple <[email protected]> wrote: > From: blue-jay maple <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MD] Reductionism > To: [email protected] > Received: Monday, 8 June, 2009, 9:02 AM > dmb: > > It's really too bad that philosophical discussions > continually get > > side-tracked into the kind of junk Nick is peddling. > > Nick: > It's seemingly too bad you don't understand economics and > have > to resort to brute force. > > dmb: > > Seems like the right-wing cranks are always the > culprits and they never say > > anything I haven't heard many time before. > > Nick: > What's funny is I'm not a right-winger you arrogant > fool. Strawman on your part. > > dmb: > > The right has been portraying taxation as theft and > oppression for my entire lifetime > > so far > > Nick: > Ah, no, if you knew Natural Law and what property rights > even mean you wouldn't be > on your arbitrary crusade blinded by you don't even know > what you're talking about nonsense. > > > dmb: > > and there's no end in sight, for example. Did you > notice the > > recent "tea baggers" protests? With a similar kind of > ignorant > > outrage they conjured up the revolutionary war slogan, > "no taxation > > without representation". The fact that U.S. tax laws > are written > > and passed by the people's representatives in Congress > has > > apparently escaped them. > > Nick: > What apparently escapes you is taxation is theft of > property you sadistic > criminal. > > dmb: > > There is a demographic irony in this attitude that I > find pretty > > interesting. As it turns out, people who are most > opposed to this > > so-called distribution of wealth live in states that > receive more > > federal dollars than they pay out in taxes. This > ideology is most > > popular in places that would suffer most from it's > realization in > > practice. Without federal dollars, there are places > that still > > wouldn't have roads or electricity. The internet > wouldn't exist > > either. > > Nick: > More arbritray non-reality nonsense. You completely > make this up as > you go with no evidence to these assertions just more > emotive irrationality > based on nothing but how your boogie phantom's in the > dark. > > dmb: > > Anyway, this sort of talk really doesn't merit a > response. Can I > > suggest that everybody else just try to ignore it? > > Nick: > Can I suggest you are a war monger? > > dmb: > > Those of us who > > aren't pathologically cranky, usually give up at some > point and ask > > ourselves why we even bothered to try. Why not > short-circuit that > > process a bit? Just jump straight to the giving up. > Just know in > > advance that it's pointless to argue with such people > and don't > > bother. Guess I'm trying to convince myself as much as > anyone else. > > It's so easy to get sucked in. > > But I mean, really? Nick's position seems to be that > taxes are > > criminal and if you think otherwise you're a criminal > too. > > Nick: > You are if you willingly allow the coercion to go on. > I don't willingly allow > to happen so I am coerced to obey for fear of my life. > > dmb: > > Disagreement with this extremely dubious idea means, > according to > > Nick, that you're a thief and murderer. I ask in all > seriousness, > > how ridiculous is that? How could something like that > possibly be > > taken seriously? How does it merit a response at all? > It's very > > ridiculous, can't be taken seriously and doesn't merit > a response. > > Nick: > Well dmb you're ridiculous cause you responded you emotive > fool. Show me > some intellectuality that can be grasped instead of your > biological pleasure rally. > > Andre tries cause Andre cares. Dmb I've never known > for you to care one bit. You've > always been a logical positivist arrogant person. > > Nick > > > -- > Be Yourself @ mail.com! > Choose From 200+ Email Addresses > Get a Free Account at www.mail.com > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice. 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