Thanks, Gav. You're way too generous, though. As I see it, my job is to object 
to some of the stuff that's way, way off. I actually feel alarmed when it seems 
somebody is distorting the MOQ to serve some other purpose. Usually, that other 
purpose is religion or politics. When I see that, it conjures up the sort of 
feeling one would have while watching one's sister date a creepy loser. It's a 
combination of disgust and alarm, which produces a desire to save the beautiful 
thing from being tainted. But it's not as bad as all that. It's also a kind of 
exercise. And it's fun. I just wish my sister could screen her dates better, 
you know? 






Gav said:
> dmb has never been arrogant to me, though he has helped refine/correct my 
> understanding of the moq.
> 
> this is a forum for discussing the MOQ, not nap, nlp, pps or pjbgtgb....
> dave and ant are in accord with each other, mr pirsig, and his books and 
> other works. ant and dave *represent* the moq and bob: this is the truth of 
> the situation.
> 
> when folks argue against ant or dave chances are they are arguing against bob 
> and chances are they don't or won't understand his work.
> 
> this is what i see over and over again.
> 
> i do not see ant or dave accorded the respect they deserve, especially dave. 
> i therefore see nothing wrong with him defending himself and showing up his 
> detractors with hilarious precision: au contraire!
> 
> egos are meant to be deflated


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